Week 21: #52 Ancestors – Tombstone
By Eilene Lyon
Nancy (Ary) Self’s tombstone looks rather ordinary, except that it seems to indicate that she lived to a remarkable age: 105. It isn’t true, but according to her obituary she outlived all twelve of her children, so that makes it pretty easy to claim you’ve reached the century mark when you haven’t.1 Except that bit about outliving all her children isn’t true, either.

It appears that Nancy Ary (original German name, Ihrich) was a late-born daughter of William Ary and Mary “Polly” Stowers, in Rockingham County, Virginia.2 The Ary family moved from Virginia to Greene County, Ohio, suggesting they may have been Quakers, but I have not found any records to that effect. Perhaps they just had many Quaker friends.
In Greene County (where I coincidently graduated high school), Nancy married a fellow Virginian and War of 1812 veteran, John Self. According to one report, she married at 18. Her obituary states she was 17 at the time. Most likely, she was just 16. The marriage took place on February 8, 1821.3 If she had been born the date shown on her grave marker, she would have been 25 years, 7 months, and 27 days old. Quite a contradiction with the other two statements.
Though her obituary says she had 12 children, I’ve so far only determined eight. The others reportedly died as infants.4 Nancy and John Self relocated to Bureau County, Illinois, about 1845, where John farmed for a living. This is coincidently where The Putterer grew up. I visited John Self’s grave there in 2012. He died of dropsy (edema, likely from congestive heart failure), in November 1859.5

Nancy and several of her children apparently did not get enumerated in 1860. They moved to Winneshiek County, Iowa, that year, where several of her children lived.6 However, Nancy did get counted in 1850, 1870 and 1880. All three documents suggest she was born in 1804.7 Twenty years later, the story changed.
In 1900 she was living with a granddaughter and her family. The census record gives her birth month/year as June 1800.8 The census taker came around on June 5, so though he recorded her as 99 years old, a week later she would celebrate her 100th birthday. Except she was really just about to turn 96. And that’s how old she was when she died in November 1900.

Though in her long life Nancy never learned to read or write, she retained her mental faculties to the end, which is quite impressive. Her final illness lasted only a few months, so she did not have a drawn-out, suffering death. She was reported to have 22 grandchildren and 66 great-grandchildren when she died.9
As for the child who outlived her? That was her youngest son, Franklin Self, who never left Bureau County, Illinois. He died in 1919.10


And where did that birth year of 1795 come from? The reporter who wrote her obituary noted the celebration of her 100th birthday in June, then states “But since then the examination of a cotemporaneous [sic] family record of one who was an associate of the deceased in childhood, but two years younger than she, seems to fix her birthday as June 12, 1795.”11 So that’s what they put on the tombstone!
Feature image: Nancy Ary Self’s gravestone in the Phelps Cemetery, Decorah, Iowa. (E. Lyon 2012)
- “Aged 105 Years.” Decorah Republican, December 6, 1900. Copied from Decorah Genealogy Association file, 2012. ↩
- https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93254534 ↩
- Nancy Ary and John Self. Family Search film #000534105. Ancestry.com. Ohio, County Marriage Records, 1774-1993 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016. ↩
- “A Centenarian Gone” unsourced obituary clipping copied from file at Decorah Genealogy Association, 2012. It states that five of her twelve children died in infancy, but she had eight who actually lived to adulthood. ↩
- John Self. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Washington, D.C.; Non-population Census Schedules for Illinois, 1850-1880; Archive Collection: T1133; Archive Roll Number: 58; Census Year: 1860; Census Place: Sheffield, Bureau, Illinois – via Ancestry.com. ↩
- See note 4. ↩
- Nancy Self. Year: 1850; Census Place: Berlin, Bureau, Illinois; Roll: 99; Page: 203B; Year: 1870; Census Place: Decorah, Winneshiek, Iowa; Roll: M593_426; Page: 101B; Family History Library Film: 545924; and Year: 1880; Census Place: Decorah, Winneshiek, Iowa; Roll: 370; Page: 75A; Enumeration District: 343 – via Ancestry.com. ↩
- Nancy Self. Year: 1900; Census Place: West Decorah, Winneshiek, Iowa; Page: 3; Enumeration District: 0128; FHL microfilm: 1240466 – via Ancestry.com. ↩
- See note 1. ↩
- Gravestone in Malden Cemetery, Bureau County, Illinois, personal visit in 2012. Supported by death record at Family Search. ↩
- See note 1. The obituary in note 4 states, “Nancy Ary, wife of John Self, was born June 12th, 1795, in Rockingham County, Va.” Both news reports are incorrect and not supported by evidence. ↩
Nancy didn’t count on an inquisitive relative and the internet!
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LOL! Yeah, I’ve busted her good!
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There is some evidence that despite appearances, that Franklin is not Nancy’s son, but it’s sordid.
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Good one, Joy!
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You’ve done yourself proud with this investigation. I’m amazed when I realize that many of our ancestors may not have been able to read or write. Seems inconceivable, but I know it is true.
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So many times genealogy ends up being a method of disproving family legend. Living as long as she did and having such a large family was still rather impressive. I can’t imagine not learning to read and write, though.
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I took another look at a bit of information and it may be that despite appearances, Franklin might be the son of Rosanna Self – and her father! That’s what his death record suggests, and he is buried in the same cemetery lot with her. Eeek!!
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Oh my! Now that’s a disturbing bit of information. But how very sleuth-y of you.
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I think I’ve found the subject for my next 52 Ancestors post, for the theme “Uncertain”!
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Perfect
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People definitely took liberties in reporting their age—and still do! Quite a life she lived.
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I’ll bet she saw a lot of changes over her 96 years. But yes, people did fudge their age a lot. Maybe they still do.
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Be it eight or twelve children, that is still lots.
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Too many for me!!
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We got to two and said “Yup, all’s well that ends well!”
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Sounds sensible.
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I was a one and done in the children department.
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Zero was my sum.
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🙂
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96 is still a very good age, isn’t it? I read the other comments about Franklin’s possible parentage – sordid indeed. Eugh!
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I’m suspecting that John Self isn’t really his father. I’ll explore this more in my Saturday post.
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96 is quite old for her time! Fascinating story of her life!
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She was a champ!
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It sounds like it. If only she knew a rogue descendant would someday reveal her secret!
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I’m kinda bad about doing that sort of thing, huh?
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Lol. Like a real life Nancy Drew!
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Except I never get to put away the bad guys. 😉
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Oh dear! At least the truth is told and we all know to never lie about our age if you’re around! 🤣
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I wonder what she would say to you if she knew what you found out?
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Slap me upside the head, no doubt.
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😆
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But of course!
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I guess the moral of this story is just because it’s carved in stone, doesn’t mean it’s true.
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I’ve found a number of errors on stones. They don’t erase very well.
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It does seem confounding that when a person is laid to rest that someone wouldn’t make sure the dates they spent on this earth were correct. But I suppose there are all kinds of different circumstances under which the incorrect dates could be inscribed.
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You would think! But mistakes to happen. I found one stone that has the correct death year, but somehow the date is the day her son died in a previous year, not the date she died. It seems a shame, since there’s no official death record, that her gravestone would be wrong.
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Usually people fudge about their age in the other direction!
There was an issue with my dad’s mother and the spelling of her name. She always went by a nickname, rarely did she sign anything the same way twice, and what records there were didn’t match either! When she passed away, there were two spellings considered and I guess they flipped a coin?
Anyway, I was named after her and my parents used the spelling on the stone. Much later, a cousin had a daughter and used the alternate spelling. And what do you think, but her dad (my uncle) paid to have the tombstone redone!
(I still consider myself her true namesake 😉)
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Well that was kind of rude of them, huh?😁 I wonder what that cost him?
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I’ve always found all the age discrepancies on successive censuses (that’s a tongue twister!) to be really odd. I understand if they were just lying, but some of those people genuinely didn’t seem to be able to keep track. How do you lose whole years of your life?! Granted, if you’re in your 90s, I could understand some of them slipping your mind, but not in your 20s, as some of the people were on the censuses I’ve seen!
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Sometimes it depended on who was answering the census worker’s questions. Usually one person answered for everyone in the household. It may not have even been a family member.
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Hi Eilene. My name is Patrick Hodge and I live in Princeton, IL I was just looking through my Ary file tonight and ran across where I’d noted that you’d visited the Bureau County Genealogical Society a few years back researching the Ary and Self lines. Did a Facebook search tonight and found you, plus your blog! I’m also a descendant of William Ary and Mary Stowers through their daughter Mary who married Christopher Vickery. In addition, I have two lines of Shiffletts, another name you may have run across in connection to the Arys. Anyway, I just thought that I would say hello. Enjoyed your articles on Nancy and Franklin.
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Hi Pat,
I still have the letter you sent me in 2012. I enjoyed my visit to Bureau County that year. My husband grew up in La Moille and his cousin lives in Princeton. Nice to hear from you. Glad you enjoyed the blog!
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